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October 16, 2012

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Carol, you make so many excellent points in this post, and the comments amplify them beautifully. I very much like the new look of your website and blog! Each provides a visual context for the wisdom of your words.

What a very important topic and what a thoughtful and caring way you deal with it.

Thank you Carol for your comments and willingness to share your opinion regarding a political and potentially tender topic for many. I also appreciate the thoughts of those who have commented.

Marriage and full and equal rights for the LGBTQ community is a major step in the right direction for our society and will over time certainly assist individuals to affirm their sexuality and ability to envision their futures without marginalization with the partner of their choices. This will increase throughout the generations as societal and familial stigmas dissolve. And as someone thoughtfully pointed out from her own experience, gay marriage is not a solution to all deception, but it will encourage more honesty and self-acceptance for sure.

The incidents regarding abuse of boy scouts and incidents from the Catholic Church were mentioned. And I wanted to offer some information that may be helpful about this, I copied this text from a UC Davis journal article: "The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes." Pedophiles typically are simply attracted to children regardless of gender and it's important to clarify that so that rights for gay marriage and gay adoption are not clouded with vague statistics and theories.

So thank you again Carol. It's always a pleasure to read how you have compassion for all sides of experience.

Correction: I meant to say that it is surprising that many "religious" people do not follow what their leaders taught and lived.
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This is an excellent blog, Carol. Thank you for your comments, which come from study, experience, common sense and interaction with many others who have dealt personally with this matter.

Resistance to fair play about GLBTQs seems to be fueled by several factors: fear of the "other", inexperience and a lack of education about sexual orientation and its ramifications, a wish to be better/superior to others, etc.

Although it's difficult to say this, I'm sure that resistance to fair play with anyone, regardless of its core cause, reveals a basic immaturity - spiritually, intellectually, morally and ethically.

Hate just can never be a good reason to join people together.
It's shocking that so many "religious people" join in what any main stream inspiring figure (be it Jesus, Mohammad or others) taught or lived.

I'm grateful that one of our presidential candidates (Obama) has the maturity, courage and grace to practice his faith (which happens to be Christianity.)

Thanks for the taking time to type your thoughts, Carol. As always, they are extremely well expressed and give cause to address several points of view. Being a straight spouse (as described in my You Tube 4 min. TV interview -- Healing from a Gay/Straight Broken Marriage)I clearly identify with the heartaches of other persons having a similar experience.

I agree with the persons sharing comments above --- some couples (gay or straight) should not be married. And the sad scenerios regarding the Scouts is only beginning to unfold. In addition, one might even bring to mind the tragedies experienced by the hidden children moldested by Roman Catholic priests....

"Where" does it end? I doubt just legalizing marriage is the answer. I believe "Education is the hope of the world." Perhaps educating (helping) boys and girls accept their homosexuality before they even think of marrying anyone can help lessen the emotional/financial anguish of everyone involved(gay persons/ straight spouses/children)?

So little in life is actually "black and white." Issues are complex and with all the technological advancements experienced today, we know a whole lot (at least about one side or the other).

How grateful I am for Straight Spouse Support (worldwide) -- websites, books, etc.... Thanks, Carol, for your years of continued service to this cause.

People like my ex would still marry women because they are scripting their stories and don't regard anyone else to be quite so important. But legal gay marriage would remove one of the "poor me societys victim" excuses. One less rock for the snakes to hide behind.

Legal gay marriage also removes illusions that all relationship issues are society's fault. I know a lesbian couple who should have been married and divorced years ago. But they just kept busting up and getting back together ya know life is tough etc. So now they are married and they keep having drama and their friends are sick of it and tell them "ok the marriage was a mistake. So do what everyone else does. Get a divorce. "

Because of DOMA things are still not equal for them tax wise. But I think the divorce could be interesting. It's not society, it's not the ex husband ( who is a great guy now remarried) it's not anyone but them and their relationship. How shocking.

Thanks for taking time to read and comment on my post, Claire.  Your point is also well taken! 

Best,
Carol

Shock and adjustment for the straight spouse and any children are a given, but as the recent revelations of the Boy Scout child abuse cover-ups indicate, there are further ramifcations to society's unwillingness to let people live their lives. A chart in today's Denver Post (http://bit.ly/Tn1cwG) indicates that something like one-third of all child abusers in the Scouts' now open files were married. I wonder how many of these incidents might not have occurred if the men had been "permitted" to have relationships with consenting adults rather with vulnerable youngsters who were persuaded by these adult predators in Scout uniforms.

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